Posted by OSCAR on February 19, 2002 at 23:57:13:
In Reply to: I don't understand you last remark.... posted by Jakobud on February 19, 2002 at 23:17:45:
: I don't know what you are referring to here in this paragraph:
: : For a wood control panel, you would probably want to use retaining pins in lieu of the screws unless you would be installing threaded inserts. For the metal control panel, either use the retaining pins or weld a couple of nuts on the underside to use screws.
What I mean here is that the restrictors were intially designed to be secured in place with (2) short screws. After I first announced the restrictors, there were some comments made about how it would be nice if they didn't require any screws or tools for removal. In response, I currently offer retaining pins in place of the (2) screws as an option. Although the screws do provide the best means of securing the plates in place, the removable retaining pins will work as well because of my interlocking plate design.
If you wish to use the restrictors with a wood control panel, you wouldn't have threads in the wood that would hold the screws in place which is why I mentioned the use of threaded inserts. Alternately, you could use the pins and not worry about the threads at all. I was just trying to cover all the bases with the above statement.
: So you are saying that we could use the restritor plates without the metal plate and still get the same performance (obviously as long as the holes were in the perfect positions)?
Yes. The mounting plate is a "dummy-proof" way of ensuring all the holes are correctly located without the end user having to worry about making precise measurements and drilling the holes correctly. As the performance of any type of joystick restrictor is tied to the physical location of the joystick, I don't want to be responsible for the customer mis-drilling the holes in their control panel and then not be happy with the performance of their restrictors.
My control panel will be 5/8" MDF (that's 5/8" before any sort of routing I do where the joysticks will mount). And I will have plexiglass on top of that. Probably 1/8" plexi I think? By the way, I DO like the plate with the screws welded to the bottom. Looks much nicer. And I have seen the picture on your site with the plate installed. Looks decent, although I'd rather do it without the plates. How much for two Stainless Steel Restrictor Plate converision kits with the mounting plate WITHOUT the welded screws (to use as a template, per your advice)?
: Jakobud
The price is the same with or without the welded studs. I set the price of the restrictor kits before I made the above mentioned modification. I have opted to remove the screws from the kit, and welding studs in their place. My time for the welding and grinding is basically a freebie as it is much easier for me to just through a few extra screws in the kit. I had already set the intial price, so I left it there although they are more work now than I had originally planned.
--OSCAR
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