Posted by Kanedo on February 26, 2002 at 02:17:10:
In Reply to: Re: HAPP PERFECT 360 JOYSTICK posted by aramis on February 25, 2002 at 19:57:42:
I don't know which SF games you're talking about, but here we mainly play SF3:3rd Strike and the local arcade use nothing but Perfect 360s. In fact, they use Perfect 360 on all of their fighter machines. I don't know about dust or debris, but microswitch joysticks just can't cut it for these games. It's true that there isn't an exact corner on the Perfect 360 joysticks, but if you talk to any good players, they'll tell you that Perfect 360 is the only way to go. The precision of these sticks sure beats the wear and tear on the normal microswitch joysticks. Plus there're no clicking.
As for me, I built a 2 player control for Dreamcast to play these games. I've tried Happ Super, Happ Super w/ Perfect 360, and Happ Competition w/ Perfect 360. The ones currently selling on www.happcontrols.com are the Competitions w/ Perfect 360. The Supers work great for the first two weeks, but the abuse and tear on the microswitches soon result in miss inputs and you can't pull your moves as easier as before. The Happ Super w/ Perfect 360, now discontinued, works much better than the regular Super. However, they use an earlier model of the Perfect 360 module, and performance may vary. The competition w/Perfect 360 has a little stiffer stick compared to the Supers, but once you get used to the stick, these will, IMO, out perform the Supers w/ Perfect 360 due to their newer Perfect 360 module. These modules are better made and screws onto the bottom of the Competition, opposed to the snap-on modules on the Supers. So far, I haven't experienced any problems with the Competition w/Perfect 360.
Personally, I'd recommend anyone who plays SF games to get these sticks. You won't regret it!
: : Their on sale right now.
: : What exactly is this joystick?
: : It rotates like a spinner?
: : Can it be hacked to work on a pc?
: It is just an 8-way stick, that doesn't use microswitches. It uses optical switches instead. AFAIK, it can be wired just like a regular joystick, except that you also have to supply +5V for the optics. I believe the outputs are sinking (ground) N.O. contacts.
: When I worked in the campus arcade at school, the guys came in and installed these in all the SF machines. They removed them a week later. They absolutely sucked. IIRC, the problem was that dust/ black plastic debris/ etc collected on the shaft and optics and gave unreliable operation.
: Their only supposed pro was that they didn't have "corners". I used them in the SF games, and didn't like them.
: My vote still goes to the Happs Competitions for that authentic SF/MK feel.