I'm just stating facts from the actual developers. No bias here


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Posted by Jakobud on 18, 2001 at 9:39 PM:

In Reply to: if you work for sony then don't you think your a bit biased? -nt posted by Howard Casto on 18, 2001 at 3:15 PM:

: : PS2 the last Sony console??? hahaha Sony going to dissapear??? hahha this is so funny. I love to hear the 'end-users' talk about what's best and what is going to happen to the industry. Considering that I work for Sony Computer Entertainment and I am aware of what is in the works for the PS3, you are way off. And I really don't think you know what you are talking about. Like Twisted Metal Black?? SCEA doesn't just publish Twisted Metal Black for Incog. SCEA OWNS Incog. Literally and Legally owns it. And the stuff about the PS2 being a PS1 on steroids??? Please. You have NO IDEA about any of the architecture differences under the hood. I know 'end-users' always think they know what they are talking about but you really don't read between the lines. The biggest and best developers like EA have publicly said that the PS2 is THE console to develop for right now. You think developers compare two consoles and say, hmm the XBox can push more polygons. Therefore it's going to win. No. You end-users just don't get it. And I didn't say anything about Nintendo making a mistake on their proprietary disc system. They made the perfect decision. They are shooting for a certain part of the market and they are hitting it dead on with their games and hardware. They have been shooting that way for the past 5 years and they are hitting it perfect. It's a way different part than what Sony and Micro$oft are shooting for. If you are blind enough that you don't see the difference than I feel for you. The fact of the matter is, everyone says that the XBox is so easy to develop for. If that is the truth why isn't everyone jumping to develop for it??? I don't understand how you look at the state of the industry right now and predict the Sony to go down completely and Microsoft to end up on top. Just LOOK at the number of developers developing for the PS2 vs. XBox. That tells the WHOLE STORY RIGHT THERE. You think everyone is going to all of the sudden just stop developing for Sony??? The leading console developer for the past 8 years??? Dude open your eyes. And did you know that 40-55% of the video game market exists in Japan? You know how much of the market is going to be Microsofts over there? Less than 4%. Sony and Nintendo RULE the roost over there. And that will never stop. People in the US don't really even consider that that US takes up less than half of the video game industry market share. Japan is BY FAR the biggest. And did you by chance make it to E3 this year? Probably not, but if you could have seen the number of developers that were developing for the PS2 vs the XBox you really would see the future. XBox is just approaching the whole industry from the wrong direction (not even releasing in Japan yet is obviously a wrong move. I guess things might be different if Microsoft had any support in Japan at all!). The numbers speak. Anyways, how do you people support Microsoft anyways??? They are just evil man. Hey howard I bet you are using Windows XP right now, right???? Hahahaha. I can't believe so many people buy into the whole Micro$oft thing. And what's up with the huge XBox controller? I had to stretch and strain my thumb just to reach all the buttons. hahaha

: : Please don't take any of this the wrong way. It's just that there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than end-users think.

: : Jakobud

: : : When I was referring to the quality of the games I was talking about game play value, not graphics.
: : : And PS2 wil probably be sony's last console system you can write that one down.

: : : Now if you openly admit that PS2 has worse hardware than the other systems how can it be better than them? That just dosen't make any sense. X-box is by far the easiest to develop for since it's so close to a pc only you don't have to worry about hardware issues because every x-box has the same specs.

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: : : And the ps2 IS a ps1 with polygon smoothing... They up-ed the specs just enough so that marekting would ahve something to promote. Computer upgrades can be subtle, but not console.... The x-box and gamecube are drastically different/better than previous systems, while dreamcast and ps2 were not.

: : : And I looked it up... Capcom has contracts with sony for certain series that it can't out of. But, they are worming they're way out of it in some instances to put stuff on the x-box specifically.

: : : And no the tmb statment isn't a moronic statement. I'm well aware of that company's relationship with sony, but it's time they move on. A game series that could be so easily ported shouldn't be forced to only be on one system.

: : : I'm well aware of the hardware requirements of emulators... Gee man, aracde controls are for emulated arcade games aren't they?
: : : ;)
: : : I realize that I don't have an average system, but I can run ps1 emualtors at about 145 fps... so I figure if I keep it to tv res it could handle ps2.

: : : Actually if you look at the reviews... This is what everyone in general is saying. Get a ps2 if your a "casual gamer", get a gamecube if your a younger player that wants qulaity games and get an X-box if your a "hardcore player" that demands performance, quality and a more mature based game niche.

: : : And I agree with you about nintendo making a mistake on the disc system, but it will still sell simply because almost every game released for a nintendo system is universal in terms of age groups and of the highest quality. (Mario, Zelda, ect) (Oh and Lugi's mansion was definately a mistake, but I'm not going there.)

: : : The x-box will come out on top.... nintendo will slide, sony will be in the #2 spot for a while, eventually sliding below nintendo and disappearing. And then nintendo, being the lasting company that it is will learn from it's mistakes and give m$ some good competition.

: : : Record this post for future generations... I've predicted the direction of every game company for the past 15 years with very good accuracy, so I doubt I'll be too off on this one.

: : : I'm just being over-opinionated on this issue because I'm very good at it, so don't take this as an attack, it's just you were very harsh about your reply so I had to do the same to get my point across.

: : : Ok I'm done.
: : : :)

: : : : : Why in the world are all the cool games only coming out on ps2 ??

: : : : Because all the real developers recognize that the PS2 is ultimately better than Xbox and Gamecube. Both systems push more polys yes, but there is so much more than that. Developers recognize it.

: : : : : No offense to the ps2 fans out there but it's definately not worth the price tag... I mean come on it's a ps1 with polygon smoothing for christ's sake!!

: : : : A PS1 with polygon smoothing???? WTF are you talking about? That's like saying an orange is just an apple with different colored skin.

: : : : :I can understand people who bought it early on, but you've got the game cube and the xbox now... come on people they're both clearly superior to the ps2.

: : : : More polygons does not make a better system. Game players are dumb enough to think that a prettier picture = better game. Developers are not that blind.

: : : : : So why does capcom choose to release capcom vs snk2 on ps2?

: : : : Because Capcom recognizes that the PS2 is gonna do better in the long run than the XBox. The XBox will have less than four percent of the market share in Japan. It's not even coming out there until like May or something. What's the deal there??? Everyone knows that consoles are ALWAYS released in Japan before America because that's where there is such a huge market share there. Reasons like this are why XBox will not make it.

: : : : : Why in the blue hell isn't Twisted Metal Black being ported?

: : : : Hahahaha no offense but that's a pretty moronic statement considering that TMB is published by SCEA! hahahahaaaaaa

: : : : : And most importantly why isn't there a ps2 emu available yet so I can play the few good games they have on my pc/xbox/whatever....

: : : : ???? Are you kidding me?? Do you know what kind of processor power it takes to emulate hardware?? The PS2 doesn't have insanely incredible hardware compared to today's PC's. But that doesn't mean they will have no problem emulating them. Emulation = immitating hardware via software... And you know Sony would sue anyways. Why wouldn't they?

: : : : : This way I can help to put a nail in the already prepared coffin of Sony and lay it to rest next to Sega.

: : : : Heheheh Pretty funny that you say that considering the number of games out for the PS1 and PS2 and the huge lineup of games that are on the way out for them, compared to the bleak lineup on the way out for the XBox.

: : : : : If PS2 wasn't a liscense hog, going around stealing all the good games then they wouldn't have lasted this long.

: : : : License hog? What are you talking about? Do you think that Sony gets ahold of 3rd party developers and 'forces' them to develop for the PS2??? No. Developers develope for PS2 because they recognize it's a better system and that Sony's grab on the market with the PS2 will be more than the XBox will even hope for.

: : : : You said it yourself: "Why in the world are all the cool games only coming out on ps2 ??"

: : : : Because the developers recognize that it is in fact the best console on the market. Thats why they develop for it! Pushing more polygons is NOT everything. You see, in the end there will be the PS2 and the Gamecube/Gameboy Advance. The only reason the XBox will probably even be around at all it because Microsoft will be pumping more money into it from their unlimited cash flow they have going. Sony and Nintendo get along because they are shooting for different parts of the market. I won't say who I work for but lets just say there is an "understanding" between Nintendo and Sony Computer Entertainment. Do you think Nintendo could easily make a living room console that plays cd's, dvds, gamecube games, surfs internet etc?...yes...but they haven't. You think Sony is capable of releasing a portable PS1 handheld system using the proprietary Sony Minidisc system?...yes...but they haven't. A little advice to all the hardcore game players out there that seem to know which console is really best: Read between the lines...

: : : : : ARRRRRGH!!!!

: : : : : Ok I feel better now......
: : : : : :)




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