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: That was not was I was getting at. Sure you can limit the lever type switches with a square hole. As long as you make sure to minimize any dead zones at the diagonals. (see my note on exclusive mode on my joystick primer page) But rubbing the joystick handle against the opening involves a lot of variables, like wood thickness and wear on the opening affecting whether the diagonals are there. So making it switchable on the top of the cabinet would involve a restrictor plate, ( I say puting it on top because you talk about limiting it thru the opening) that would have to be removable and somewhat accurately placed. Remember the object here is to make a SWITCHABLE 4-8 joystick. : Everyone is saying my method does not emulate a true 4-way joystick. I was just showing with the picture that restricting an 8-way is not true either. Without the levers and with the activator centered provides the most accurate switching between directions. Limiting an 8-way mechanically involves a trade off. You have to make sure the switches switch over with no overlaping creating a diagonal. And you have to minimize any dead zone between switching. Closer switch spacing (with no levers as per photo) and longer play handle provides the only true quick action 4-way joystick. Anything else is just a hack like mine. But if the hack comes close then who cares? : You want a true 4-way joystick, buy one and don't hassle me about my design. If you have the capability to burn an Atmel chip it should cost you under $10 for 2 chips (plus shipping). Then just get some wire and solder (the most time consuming part) I have heard that sattelite pirates have the capability to burn this chip, if you know one. : If you know of a better switchable method, that is EASY to do then post it. (Not directed to you but everyone who says mine is not doable.) None of you folks have tried my method, so you do not know weither it comes very close to a true 4-way or not. My use says it does. Also read my joystick primer with an open mind to get a better understanding of how it works. : This will be my last post defending my method. Try it or not, I could care less. I was trying to share info, which I may not do in the future. : : : Hate to burst your bubble, but the mere lack of levers on the microswitches does not a 4-way make. : : Both the "Competition" and the "Ultimate" from HAPP are 8-way sticks and have no levers on the switches. : : Now, that little round actuator on your Q-bert stick coupled with the lack of levers is probably part of it, but I suspect that the shape of the cutout on the control panel plays a more important role in limiting direction of movement. : : Randy : : : : : I have a picture on a new page describing joystick activation. Check out: : : : http://www.rentrondesign.homestead.com/JoyPrimer.html : : : : In the 4way -> 8way joystick debate Derrick Renaud mentioned this: : : : : "If you have ever seen a true 4-way jostick, it does not have metal levers on the switch. It just uses the small switch activator mounted so the activator is at the center of the direction." : : : : I'm having a hard time visuallizing this... anyone have clear pictures of a true 4way joystick so I can see what he means? : : : : Thanks.

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