Posted by Havelok on 9, 2001 at 12:29 PM:
In Reply to: I'm really obsessed with these issues, and you're not? posted by Mojo2000 on 9, 2001 at 9:57 AM:
: I hope you're not implying that MY panels are unrealistic, excessive, unergonomic and/or uncomfortable. Expensive, yes, but if I'm going
What I'm saying is that a panel that holds so many controls together is unrealistic. I didn't bother to pay much attention to your panels really...
to play these games right, I want to make sure I've planned ahead. In fact, although I will never render my diagrams in Photoshop, I KNOW I put more thought into my dream panel design than you did.
Well... I don't care too much what you or anybody else say. I have my own ideas, and I'm sure of what I want. Are you? Because I have the impression that your ideas are more like a theory manual about how to make the perfect control panel, than to build a panel that is useful and practical.
: Which is why:
: 1) I was not planning for a desktop control panel (although my A, B and D panels would do fine on a desk)
: 2) I was not planning for only a SINGLE control panel, since that would ultimately be very frustrating
OK
: This is only determined by your restraint and bank account. :-) Sometimes one must simply decide what games are most worthwhile to enjoy repeatedly and which can be ignored (or in your case undoubtedly, which can be enjoyed with the panel and which will make to with a pad and mouse).
Money is not a problem, but spending money in useless things is a senseless attitude.
: You don't have to justify your choices to me or anyone else on this board. Everybody who has
HAHAHA that's funny.
built an arcade cab showcased at this website or Arcade@Home has made conscious choices that they will either live with permanently, now, or expand upon later. These choices may or may not have been influenced by other people's projects. I certainly have not imposed any rules or minimum standards on anybody; if anything, I've only shown a few people what they might be missing out on if they don't allow certain options.
: The only sacrifice I've made to date is to set the deadline for completion of my project in ten years' time.
10 years? X,DD
: If you had examined my panels closely (you probably can't right now, since the picture links at FortuneCity's webpages are currently shot !@#$#$%@), you would see that my Swap Panel B matches exactly what you are describing.
Yes, I think your webpage had more information and pics some time ago.
: By how much? A mere 0.02" and 0.05"! (dimensions taken from the Happ Controls USA website)
If you look for confortable gameplay, you have to leave free space, to rest your hands, not to touch the other's players hands etc. The more controls you put the less free space you have.
: $39.65 US for the plain 12-way rotary and $44.05 US for the optical version. (prices obtained from the Happ Controls USA website) The rotary axes are analog spinner-type outputs. I would be sending those signals to Opti-Pac...
Thanks again. You're always a valuable and easy source of information.