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Posted by Rob Caskey on September 30, 1999 at 16:31:00:

In Reply to: The most buttons per player?... posted by Matt M. on September 30, 1999 at 05:46:26:

Issue #1, Control Pannel Clutter. Basically you start to have problems if any given control pannel has more htan 2 joysticks if you want to use something else. I have 4 joysticks on my cp so dont even _think_ about adding a spinner or trackball without using a different CP :)

Issue #2, Max Buttons. If you select keys for this game you should only see 4 buttons, but mame supports up to 8 if you select see keys for all games. Buttons for all games is good for assigning coin to button M & start to button start on the sidewinders etc.

#Issue #3, How Many Buttons. Ok. If you just want to play NG you only have to worry about 4 buttons per player + start & coin (trust me you want a coin button). Also no NG game uses more than 2 joysticks at once (although some dont use any at all). For just neogeo emulation you need buttons to control mame & other emus (esc, reset, enter, pause, volume, tab) + 2 joysticks (go with the happs super 8s IMHO but if you wish to play ONLY fighters go with competition). As far as any given game goes I know of a bunch that use 6. For 4 joysticks, I think their are no games with more than 3, but I put 4 on my cp in hopes of CPS2 emulation (AD&D TOD, Aliens Vs Predator). I also put 7 buttons on players 1 & 3. It looks like this (kinda):

0 0 0
( ) 0 0 0 0

The purpose of this is so its good for SF2 etc. Also the staggered 4th button on the first row is good for block in mk 1 & 2, and Run in MK3 & 4 with block assigned to the far right 2 buttons. The neogeo layout uses 4 buttons, so you use the thumb on the lower button and your three fingers no the top to get a kind of arch. overall my CP looks kinda like this:

+--------------------------------------------+
|                                            |
|                   O O O                    |
|  O                O O O         o     oo   |
|        o                        o     oo   |
|  oo    o      o o        oo                |
|  oo                                   O    |
|                                            |
|         O     ooo      O    ooo            |
 \             oooo          oooo            /
  +----------------------------------------+

Kinda :P The 4 groups of 2 buttons are start & credits. The six in the middle are for emu control. Its all hacked to 4 sidewinder pads, which is the only way of getting this many inputs that has actually been tested (im working on a piece I hope to finish this weekend on exactly how to do it) that I know of. Total cost for the CP: ~ $325. Used 4 happs super 8s. I have 4 inputs free :) If you have any questions- email me. Do you like the design?

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: Issue #1, Control Pannel Clutter. Basically you start to have problems if any given control pannel has more htan 2 joysticks if you want to use something else. I have 4 joysticks on my cp so dont even _think_ about adding a spinner or trackball without using a different CP :) : Issue #2, Max Buttons. If you select keys for this game you should only see 4 buttons, but mame supports up to 8 if you select see keys for all games. Buttons for all games is good for assigning coin to button M & start to button start on the sidewinders etc. : #Issue #3, How Many Buttons. Ok. If you just want to play NG you only have to worry about 4 buttons per player + start & coin (trust me you want a coin button). Also no NG game uses more than 2 joysticks at once (although some dont use any at all). For just neogeo emulation you need buttons to control mame & other emus (esc, reset, enter, pause, volume, tab) + 2 joysticks (go with the happs super 8s IMHO but if you wish to play ONLY fighters go with competition). As far as any given game goes I know of a bunch that use 6. For 4 joysticks, I think their are no games with more than 3, but I put 4 on my cp in hopes of CPS2 emulation (AD&D TOD, Aliens Vs Predator). I also put 7 buttons on players 1 & 3. It looks like this (kinda): : 0 0 0 : ( ) 0 0 0 0 : The purpose of this is so its good for SF2 etc. Also the staggered 4th button on the first row is good for block in mk 1 & 2, and Run in MK3 & 4 with block assigned to the far right 2 buttons. The neogeo layout uses 4 buttons, so you use the thumb on the lower button and your three fingers no the top to get a kind of arch. overall my CP looks kinda like this: : <pre> : +--------------------------------------------+ : | | : | O O O | : | O O O O o oo | : | o o oo | : | oo o o o oo | : | oo O | : | | : | O ooo O ooo | : \ oooo oooo / : +----------------------------------------+ : : </pre> : Kinda :P The 4 groups of 2 buttons are start & credits. The six in the middle are for emu control. Its all hacked to 4 sidewinder pads, which is the only way of getting this many inputs that has actually been tested (im working on a piece I hope to finish this weekend on exactly how to do it) that I know of. Total cost for the CP: ~ $325. Used 4 happs super 8s. I have 4 inputs free :) If you have any questions- email me. Do you like the design?

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